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15th December 2008, 04:37 PM
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Hey all i was just wondering whether i should get a new monitor or a new gpu. Also if i get a decent monitor, will i be able to play my games on higher resolution without affecting the performance? I still think a new gpu would be better but i only have the 1950x pro for about a year and i need to come up with a very good reason to convince my mum to allow me to buy it  whereas i could easily talk her into letting me buy a new monitor because my current one is 4 years old and it's OBESE  !!!
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15th December 2008, 04:53 PM
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If you increase the resolution then you will always get slightly less performance out of your card because it is more work for the GPU.
In your situation I would get a new monitor and then save up for a new graphics card for when your current one starts struggling with recent games.
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15th December 2008, 04:57 PM
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hmm well it is struggling a slightly with cod world at war. There's gonna be lots of new games with heavy graphics coming next year  . Thank you for the response btw  , arghhh my typing cursor keeps disappearing when i'm typing it's sooo annoying  ,i've already unticked the hide cursor while typing box in control panel but the problem persists, do you know how to fix this or should i make a new thread? |
15th December 2008, 05:51 PM
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If it's struggling with new games already then the best thing to do would be to get a new card, otherwise with a higher resolution it will get even worse.
That's a bit weird  I'd say make another thread mate, you'd have thought that if you unticked the box then it would do as it was told 
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15th December 2008, 06:21 PM
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You can get some pretty awesome cards now for not that bad of a price. I had bought my 8800GT for $170 or so with a rebate. You can get it now for that price without the rebate. If your current card is struggling to keep up with the current games, then I would probably go for a new card, and get a monitor later.
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16th December 2008, 01:53 AM
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I'd say skip right over the 8800gt and go straight to the 9800gt. The 9800gt has far better performance, and it is currently 115 bucks, and I even found one that offers free shipping. Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N971-TR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
If you were to go with a new video card, I would highly recommend this one. It will easily play COD world at war even at the highest settings with about 50 frames per second.
Monitors are bloody expensive in comparison. If you're looking for a 22 inch flat panel for instance, you're looking at spending at the minimum $160. For a quality monitor, such as a nice LG monitor or a Samsung, you're looking at spending between $240 and $300 depending on the exact specs of the monitor.
Performance or beauty? Tough call. Personally, like Sam, I could live with a crappy monitor so long as I could play games effortlessly. And seeing as the card would be less expensive than the monitor regardless, I'd say go for the performance. You'll be getting much higher frames than just 50 at a resolution like 1280x1024 anyhow.
Only one question. Do you have any clue whether your motherboard supports that kind of a card though? The x1950, if I remember correctly, had both an AGP interface variant AND pci-express 16x. So what kind of a new card you can get really depends on which one you've got. If you can give us a motherboard model, or what brand/model the computer itself is, that would be a great help.
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16th December 2008, 04:46 AM
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My 8800GT and the 9800GT you posted link actually have the same exact specs. Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
Though go figure, my card is now deactivated! lol
Though I aint complaining, my card is pretty sweet. 
But heck ya, the 9800GT is definitely a good price!
As link has mentioned, do you know what slot your motherboard has? It would make it easier to help you out.
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16th December 2008, 05:11 AM
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Well, I've done some poking around and I have some potential items lined up for you. But first, there are a couple of things that need addressing before I'll bother taking much further action.
We need to know the following:
-Make/model of your motherboard or the interface type of your x1950. Without a pci-e 16x slot, you're pretty much done for since AGP is the old interface and cards aren't being made for that slot anymore.
-What kind of power supply have you got? Is it up to the task of powering a new power-hungry beast? Check the side of the power supply and see if you can find the power specifications on it.
-What kind of a budget are you working with? How much are you willing to spend on the new video card?
-What do you look for in a monitor? Does it have to be big? Does it have to be adjustable in certain ways? Do you like the buttons to be anywhere in particular? How much are you looking to spend on the monitor? How much do you know about monitors?
Once we know that, I have a good monitor, power supply, and video card suggestion I can give you.
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16th December 2008, 09:25 AM
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Link is right. I think it would be best if you posted your system specs in your profile. It will help us a lot and will also help in the future if any other questions arise
Also make sure if your case will house such a huge graphics card. Graphics cards such as the 9800 series can be as long as near-30cm, so make sure you have the room in your case.
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16th December 2008, 02:01 PM
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You're right about the size, Josh, my graphics card is long enough to actually touch my hard drive
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16th December 2008, 02:06 PM
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Ah yes you'll definitely wanna see if your case is gonna be big enough. These new cards are beasts!
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16th December 2008, 04:59 PM
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ok.... lol i'm quite stunned to get back from school with all these responses on my thread haha not that it's a bad thing
My x1950 Pro uses a x16 PCI-E slot. Power Supply is 750W. My motherboard is abit AN52
And i dunno a lot about monitors i don't mind 17-19 inches would do just as long as its flat
LOL i was going to get a 8800 GT |
17th December 2008, 07:50 AM
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In THAT case, you're good to go with any of the newest and greatest cards out there. Your power supply is a beast so it should easily handle it.
With monitors, there are a couple of things I look for. I look for a decent stand. If it looks kinda flimsy or looks like it might be kinda wobbly, I tend to ignore it.
I also like to have the buttons out of sight but not out of reach. Right now, the buttons on my monitor are on the bottom of the panel behind a small clear plastic shield. Which I really like.
Another thing to look for is a good contrast ratio. Usually the higher the better. Most monitors support ratios like 3000:1 or 8000:1, or even 10,000:1. The 10,000:1 monitors tend to go for more. Mine supports 8000:1. It essentially means you have a better picture on screen.
And the last thing is response time. Most monitors when you move the mouse around, it leaves almost a little bit of a trail behind the cursor. A low response time means less of this phenomenon. The lower the better. 2 milliseconds is the current best, 3 milliseconds, 5ms, 6ms, and so on.
Here's a relatively nice LG monitor, 19 inch. Newegg.com - LG W1952TQ-TF Black 19" 2ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 10000:1DCR with HDCP Support - LCD Monitors
It's $180 so it's relatively inexpensive, but it comes with some free software that some people have complained about. It's called ForteManager or something, and it's basically used to keep profiles of certain brightness settings and other stuff. It also does NOT come with a DVI cable. Only a VGA so you'd have to buy the DVI cable extra.
This is a nice Samsung 19inch. I've had a thing for Samsung products as they're quite nice. It's $230, so it's a tad expensive. But it comes with the dvi and vga cables standard, it has a sturdier looking stand (which I can vouch for that it's sturdy as I have the same stand), and it doesn't come with any annoying software. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001274
I currently have that monitor's older bigger brother: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001268
As for a video card, that 9800gt I offered is still probably a really good choice. Heck, if you wanted to and have the money to blow, you could even go straight for a 9800gtx 512mb which is another 40 dollars or so, and offers even more bang for you buck.
That's up to you really. The cards offered so far are all VERY good choices. 8800gt, 9800gt, 9800gtx, 9600gt...the list could go on. The ball is in your court.
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"Take now this Ring," he said, "for thy labours and thy cares will be heavy, but in all it will support thee and defend thee from weariness. For this ring is the Ring of Fire, and herewith, maybe, thou shalt rekindle hearts to the valour of old in a world that grows chill."
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17th December 2008, 02:45 PM
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I would probably go with the card that link put up. Only $115. And after a rebate even cheaper. Though I don't know where you live so newegg may be of no use to you.
As for monitors here is actually the one I got for christmas. Newegg.com - Acer X223Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 2500:1 - LCD Monitors
It has a horrible contrast ratio 2500:1.
But I looked at the reviews, and it had won 1 x newegg customer choice award. So I knew that people liked it. And I got it for a good deal. $150 on black friday.
Not to mention anything is better than this little 17 inch dell I have.
That new monitor will still look better than the dell flat panel I have even with its horrible contrast ratio lol.
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Facts are stubborn things, statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
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17th December 2008, 10:09 PM
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Ermm can i still order from newegg if i live in the uk? And why is everyone getting links from there it's scaring me
As for the monitors, ty for all the responses, the ones u guys mentioned are pretty decent value but i think i'll go with the 9800 GT option .
Argh....here comes the convincing bit |
17th December 2008, 10:15 PM
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Newegg is US only so you'll want to look at ebuyer.com or overclockers.co.uk.
They got their links from there because they're both in the US
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17th December 2008, 10:57 PM
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ohhh yeaah good point dave haha nice observation skill . I've already checked on microdirect, the prices seem alright . Any hint for the convince part? |
18th December 2008, 03:37 AM
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Actually newegg is also for canada. Newegg.ca - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more!
Yup link and I do all our computer shopping on newegg, well at least I do. I am pretty sure link does also.
Good choice one the 9800GT. You will like it allot.
As for the convincing part... hmm.... say that your card has gone obsolete and can't play any of the new games out now. And that you need this new one that isn't very expensive at all.
Good luck. lol
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Facts are stubborn things, statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
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18th December 2008, 04:22 PM
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