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21st April 2008, 07:14 AM
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I believe, that the ideal listening expirience, for a person on a budget, is made up of a pair of either the Beyerdynamics DT990s or the AKG 701s, combined with a single subwoofer on the floor (not other speakers), for that extra bass feeling, as you "feel" higher frequencies with your ear-drums, and you feel the lower frequencies with your entire body.
Please prove me horribly wrong!
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21st April 2008, 07:35 AM
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Nope - I think you are right! One of the best woofers ever was a 4 ft piece of concrete pipe with a speaker in the top facing downwards.
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21st April 2008, 07:38 AM
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Must have been a 'BOOMING' experience for the neighbours?
Edit: er wait, good woofers aren't meant to be 'boomy' :P
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21st April 2008, 07:45 AM
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No idea - and I guess it would have to be different according to what type of floor it was standing on too?
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21st April 2008, 07:47 AM
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Yes; I guess the floor would have some say in that matter.
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21st April 2008, 07:54 AM
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My main problem is to find a way (other than to unplug my front speakers) to get sound out of only my subwoofer. I'll play around with Alsa later, but it should be possible to only send the LFE to hw:0,1 and to send all channels to hw:0,0 - am I bothering you with the technicalities?
Of course the problem is with my front speakers interfering in the high frequencies, and I can't set woofer to be more than +9 above my other speakers
Even then, I still have a problem with stereo content....
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21st April 2008, 08:37 AM
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Do that and it will sound horrible - you will hear less than half the total audio output of the amp. The woofer only supplies support.
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21st April 2008, 08:51 AM
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I use a JVC MXG700r. Though I wouldn't say it was budget, it was £350 when I had it about 8 years ago. I've linked it up to my PC and it is an absolute beast  , especially when I modify the treble and bass settings on my computer. The bass literally shakes the house and can be heard at the end of the street  . I still use it today, and for me, it's irreplaceable.
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21st April 2008, 09:12 AM
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I guess that getting your audio right is very like building a fast PC - it all has to march along in step for it to work properly.
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21st April 2008, 11:34 AM
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I suppose it all depends on what constitutes a budget.
Personally I really like the Logitech Z2300 2.1 system and plan on actually buying it soon. It is THX approved and has two 40watt RMS satellite speakers and a 120watt RMS sub. Price is around £90.
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21st April 2008, 04:47 PM
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They look like nice speakers mate
I have some random old fairly cheap 2.1 speakers that we've had for years. They're a bit weird though because sometimes it will change the levelling onto one speaker a bit more than the other and the treble would go down a bit and stuff, and I'm pretty sure it's not my PC.
I might get some new ones when I get my new PC if it's still the same hehe.
That reminds me, pops has these ones, but got them cheaper from Ebuyer: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/sp...s/208&cl=gb,en
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21st April 2008, 04:52 PM
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HAHA this thread has gone off in a completely different direction, than I intended - and I don't mind at all!
I maybe should have mentioned, that the 'pairs' I was talking about were headphones, not speakers. You see, with a pair of open headphones you can hear everything around you, but the problem was not with hearing, but the lack of feeling in the bass, so I thought up the crazy solution of high-end stereo headphones + single woofer on the floor. (no other speakers to mess things up)
If I just wanted to hear more bass, then could as well have done it, by messing with the equalizer.
I'm getting a huge rack-like case soon, and I'm thinking of modding the woofer straight into the case, if possible
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21st April 2008, 05:12 PM
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Well, your thread title does say " Ideal listening experience?" Which I assumed was asking for members opinions on what they think is the ideal listening experience for them.
Not so sure about putting the sub woofer directly into the case. I`d be a little concerned over vibration etc.
However, if you do that, I`d be very interested to know the outcome.
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21st April 2008, 05:31 PM
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I do appreciate peoples opinions, but my intent was maybe more for people to point out if there was anything wrong/flawed in my current solution - but I'm not trying to control anyone here  This isn't one of the usual "my PC is broken" threads, so I guess some good discussion from different perspectives of the problem are more than welcome.
The thing about modding the woofer into the case is just a wild thought right now; I'll be receiving the case one of these days, so by then I should have figured it out, I'm just concerned, that the case might not be tall enough to encompass the woofer.
I'm not too concerned about vibration, as this is very a sturdy case, but I'll have to figure out how to safely seal off the speaker from the harddrives and the water-pump, as they probably wont like the different magnetic field, that I presume the woofer will give off.
Edit: LOL, you'll know what happened, if you don't see me posting for the rest of the week
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21st April 2008, 08:45 PM
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Jesse - get a case big enough and you could sit in it!
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21st April 2008, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse_hz I do appreciate peoples opinions, but my intent was maybe more for people to point out if there was anything wrong/flawed in my current solution | Ah, I see now lol. Well, in that case, next time try and make your thread title a little less ambiguous hehe.
I don`t think listening through headphones and having a subwoofer is the ideal situation, but hey, if it works for you then good on yer.
The problem with open backed headphones is a lack of bass. Maybe consider getting some closed back headphones for a big increase in bass response.
However, having said that, a good pair of headphones will probably cost you as much or more than a good set of speakers.
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4th May 2008, 12:55 AM
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Received the case 2 weeks ago and it's no where near as big as it looks in photos, so there's no way it's gonna get that idea with the sub realised. This doesn't annoy me however as I'm kinda tired of cases that are over-roomy.
Regarding the headphones+sub; the problem was not with getting more bass in the hearable/audible range, but getting it in the "feelable" (lack of better word) range.
While it did kind of work, there was just too much overlap in the audible range, so until I figure out how to do on-the-fly frequency filtering of the audio that is sent to a single device (hw:0,1 only, not the analog), I'm not gonna try again.
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4th May 2008, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by howard_hopkinso However, having said that, a good pair of headphones will probably cost you as much or more than a good set of speakers.
Regards Howard  | Ahh very true howard! I have some Logitech headphones/mic set that cost me $50. You could probably get a decent set of speakers for that. Not the best set but a decent one.
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11th June 2008, 05:01 PM
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As sad as this may sound, I have POS speakers from about a decade ago. They do the job, but not as well as I would like. I never saw a serious necessity for a good setup. But more recently, I've been listening to songs that I wish would have a little more kick to them, especially since I heart bass.
EDIT: I tried to find pics or something of them but there's like nothing out there. But in case none of you were wondering (lol), they're Audioworks AE-691
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11th June 2008, 06:14 PM
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I feed the signal to and back from my hi-fi system - gets a bit noisy in here sometimes as the room is not that big. The speakers are a pair of Linton Wharfdales I got for nothing.
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