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17th November 2007, 11:11 PM
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Original article can be found HERE. 
While we are waiting for all the parts to arrive, we should do some things:
Read the Manuals that came with the Case and the Mother Board. Get familiar with all the parts and wires. Each Manufactures Case and Mother Boards are little different, if you read something in the Manual that is not explained completely, get on the Web and do a little research on that subject. This is like Tweaking a Car, know what you have under the Hood, she's your baby, your building it with your own two hands, Cool Huh ! Ya, I'm getting excited, this baby should fly ( :
The next thing we need to do, is have all the Tools to do this, a Phillips screw driver and a Tweezers to move Jumper caps. Make sure they are not magnetized. Next you need a table to set it on, I use the Kitchen table, with no table cloth on it, it also has no rugs or carpets around it. You have to make sure that you have not built up any static electricity in you, before you touch any parts, ground yourself on something Metal, like the Stove or the Metal Frame on the Computer Case. Anytime I go to Touch a Part, I first touch the Metal Frame on the Case, to make sure I have discharged any Static Electricity. If you Zap any of the Components, it will ruin them ! Also have plenty of lights on, I also use a Flashlight ( keep the Flashlight away from the parts to ) to help read the fine print on the Mother Board. Next a pair of Pliers or a small Adjustable Wrench to install the Standoffs for the Mother Board, again make sure they are not magnetized. OK, next we will begin to put it all together.
I picked up a Floppy Drive at a local computer shop. I also bought another Western Digital 40 gig Harddrive, paid about $30.00 more for it, then what I would have paid at comp-u-plus.com. With the registration of XP, I figured I would save myself the hassles with MS to install it later.[hr]
Lets build a Computer, there will be several pages to this:
Lets build a Computer, there will be several pages to this:
First thing I do is get all the wires in the case ready. Remove any drive carriages, get it prepared to install the Mobo.
Ok the case is ready. Now I remove the back connections panel on the back of the case and put in the one that comes with the Mobo. Every Mobo and case have a different plate, sometimes they match, most times not.3. Now I place the Mobo in the case, making sure I ground myself fist, by touching the metal frame on the case. I line up where the Standoffs will be placed, according to where the hole on the Mobo are. Then I screw in the brass standoffs. These keep the Mobo from touching any metal on the case, which would short out the Mobo. Ok all the standoffs are in place and the new plate is in.Just so you know, to put the computer together took about 4 1/2 to 5 hours. To install XP and install all the XP updates, driver updates and getting the Bios tweaked took another 8 to 9 hours and I'm on a cable connection. 
What I do next is install the Memory and the CPU on the Mobo, before I install it in the case. If you do it this way, lay the Mobo on the static free bag with the foam under the bag, this comes with the Mobo. Ok now first I install the Memory or Ram sticks.Make sure you've them positioned correctly, they have a notch in the bottom, that lines up with the ridge in the slot. The Memory is in, the two sticks with the Corsair name on them. Make sure they are seated all the way and the white clips come all the way up and snap in place. When you put the sticks in you push those clips down to open them.
Motherboard-
Next I install the CPU or Processor, again ground yourself. These Chips are very fragile, so be extra careful when installing them. This is a Socket A slot, the big white square with the all the little holes in it and is for an AMD Athlon processor. The chip has to go into that slot a certain way, there usually is a clipped corner on the chip, this one had a Gold Triangle on the corner, that corner has to line up with the Top, Left corner of that white square, if you notice there is a ridge and if you look close there is a tan colored lever sticking up on the Top, Left corner where that ridge is. That opens the lock that holds the pins in, once the chip is in, the chip sites on that flat spot where all the holes are, the holes are for the pins that are on the bottom of the chip. Once you carefully place the chip, it should drop right in, with no pressure applied, you pull that lever down and to lock it in place. Processor installed ! When I do this, I follow the directions in the Motherboard and Case Manufactures Manuals.  .
Next the tricky part, installing the Heatsink, the Heat sink sites on top of the chip, there is tape on the bottom of the Heatsink ( some you have to apply a special cream to the bottom ), remove the strip on the tape and then Gently place the Heatsink on the chip, there are four little rubber pads on the chip, the heatsink sites on those. The Heatsink has a notch in it that fits over the top of that ridge, make sure you line it up right and that the clips that lock it in place are lined up evenly. Follow the direction in the Manual and be very carefully. Again before you touch these parts ground yourself ! OK Heatsink and I didn't crack the chip, WHEW !!!!
Ok Memory, Processor and Heatsink are installed next I install the Mobo into the Case. Again ground yourself, when you slid the Mobo in, you have to get the connector assemblies under some metal tabs and position it over the standoffs. Line one of the holes over a standoff and put in a screw, I do not tighten any of the screws until I have them all in, then I go around and screw them in tight. OK Mobo is in and connectors line up correctly. 
Next can be time consuming, plugging all the wires and any adapters on the Mobo, once those are all plugged in right, I start installing all the drives. Looks like a tangled mess, doesn't it. Again you have to follow the Case and Mobo Manuals on where these wires go on the Mobo, this is where I use the flashlight to read all the fine print on the Mobo. Make sure you get everything plugged in, especially the Fans and the Fan on the Heatsink.
Next I install the Graphics card, CD-RW, Floppy Drive and lastly the Harddrives, I am installing two drives so one will be the Master and one will be the Slave drive. I use the Cable Select Jumper Setting, with the appropriate cable. What this does is the Mobo determines what is the Master and what is the Slave, by the position of the drives on the cable. The Master will be, as with the Master-Slave Jumper settings, the first drive on the cable, the slave will be the second drive on the cable. If I had two CD-ROMS it would be the same, the RW would be the Master and the CD-ROM would be the Slave. Next I connect all the IDE cables to the Mobo and the Drives, then all of the Power cables. Jumper Setting are usually always diagrammed on top of the drives or in the Manuals, with these I had no Manuals, because they were OEM, ( Original Equipment Manufacture ).
Last edited by Jason; 19th September 2008 at 05:05 PM.
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10th January 2008, 10:30 PM
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I always build the motherboard up outside the case then fire it up to make sure it will post.
All you need is the plastic sleeve that the mobo came in to place it on, mobo, CPU, one stick of memory and either integrated graphics or a graphics card.
then I hook up the PSU and connect the monitor, mouse and keyboard and short out the switch terminals with a screw driver and away it goes (or not).
There is nothing worse than building it in the case and finding it does not work and you have to start taking it apart.
By doing it this way if it does not boot after the build is finished at least you have eliminated some of the hardware that could cause the problem.
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11th January 2008, 07:23 PM
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Good point, alan2273.
Anybody else think this is worthy of a sticky?
Joe, I don't suppose you could post the link to the original page?
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11th January 2008, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by alan2273 I always build the motherboard up outside the case then fire it up to make sure it will post.
All you need is the plastic sleeve that the mobo came in to place it on, mobo, CPU, one stick of memory and either integrated graphics or a graphics card.
then I hook up the PSU and connect the monitor, mouse and keyboard and short out the switch terminals with a screw driver and away it goes (or not).
There is nothing worse than building it in the case and finding it does not work and you have to start taking it apart.
By doing it this way if it does not boot after the build is finished at least you have eliminated some of the hardware that could cause the problem. | You forgot something important. ANTISTATIC bag! Jeez. What a great way to lose your parts.
Oh brother, i should start on the how to build a computer tutorial. I know how to simplify things instead those sites. But with better pictures. That will be on our next topic.
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11th January 2008, 08:09 PM
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I don't suppose you'll share with us what he's forgotten?
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11th January 2008, 08:10 PM
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Refresh the page, dude =)
Second of all, this is outdated pictures.
Always, always provide the pictures about Socket Am2, 775 and 940; DDR1 - DDR3, PCI, AGP, PCI-E, SLI, Crossfire and many to list.
This is good to start, but you should do the tutorial by yourself instead copying from other people's work.
If you provides the updated tutorial, the more people will understand how it works.
Always, always end it with picture and article sources. We don't wants the lawsuits.
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11th January 2008, 08:12 PM
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Permission is needed from the person who actually created all that before it can be stickied really. It should also have their name on it and a link to the original article.
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11th January 2008, 08:15 PM
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I've seen this before on the net, that's the reason why I added the quotes.
I haven't seen it for a while, but personally speaking, I don't think it should be a sticky, unless Mike posts it.
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11th January 2008, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bushwhacker You forgot something important. ANTISTATIC bag! Jeez. What a great way to lose your parts.
. | Antistatic bag = plastic sleeve.
Would you mind enlighening me how I would lose parts?, hopefully i can benefit from your knowledge.
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11th January 2008, 10:23 PM
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I think what he means is losing (breaking) them through static electricity.
You did say "the plastic sleeve that the mobo came in" which would be antistatic anyway, so I don't think you forgot anything and asked why he said you forgot something
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12th January 2008, 01:49 AM
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Well.
Putting the parts on the woods is fine, but for the safety, use the antistatic pad or reuse the antistatic bag.
What if something wet under there and you put the part ontop of it? Same thing with metal if you have no anti-static between it.
In any circumstance, never put the parts ontop the metal and anti-static. because they pokes through.
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25th January 2008, 07:33 AM
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Hi All
Mike from Mikescomputerinfo.com short post, tried a longer one but you must have a short time limit on posting in Vbulletin, I do on mine to, lol. It is fine to have the info from my site here, but would like to be asked in the future or better link to the pages. Here is the link to that info: http://www.mikescomputerinfo.com/buildcomputer.htm
and a link to the updated system: http://mikescomputerinfo.com/buildcomputerA.htm
Well lets see if this will post. | 
25th January 2008, 08:16 AM
|  | TST Master | | Join Date: Dec 2007, 3,366 posts. Reputation:   | | Hello and welcome to
I`m very sorry that your work was published on our site without your permission. I assure you this is not something we condone. We try as far as is possible to make sure our members are aware of their responsibilities when posting content that is not their own, wherever we can.
I have edited the original post in this thread to give you your due recognition. I hope this meets with your approval.
As for your posting problem, please do the following. When you log in, please make sure you tick the little box that says "Remember Me" This should prevent you from being automatically logged out during posting etc.
Regards Howard | 
25th January 2008, 09:21 AM
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Thank You for the Welcome and recognition Howard. 
No problem, the info on my site is there to help and hopefully inform new computer users. I am not a pro, nor do I have any schooling for computers, just been working on them since the only OS that came with a new computer was DOS, wow, that dates me, lol.
That build was a long time ago and the parts used were the best on the market at that moment in time, she was fast. I should have been a little more precise about the steps of that build, but it was intended to illustrate that it is really not that difficult to build your own System. Actually it inspired a few regular visitors to build one and they did great, in fact one lady now does all the tech support for the Fire Station she works at and she knew verrry little to start out. Another person Gary, now picks up used computers and rebuilds them for other people and himself.
Also I do keep the parts in anti static bags, but I do not use an ESD wrist strap, although they are cheap, I have always grounded myself on the metal case and have never zapped a part yet,( knocks on wood table ) but you really should wear one.
As far as bench testing, I suppose I could, but what the hey, I have only had a couple boot up to a black screen and that was because of the BIOS being set to "Halt on all Errors" err, once that was diabled they have all booted right up. I have built from scratch 7 computers and have upgraded, couldn't tell ya how many.
Well that is a little about Mike, thanks all for the comments, love it, that is how I learn. It is great that you all took time to look over my pages, any suggestions, comments or ideas to make a better tutorial let me know 
If you get time see how you all do on my Computer Quizes http://www.mikescomputerinfo.com/cgi...irex/index.cgi it would be nice to dethrone Che, lol. | 
25th January 2008, 12:42 PM
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hi buller and welcome to TST. | 
25th January 2008, 12:50 PM
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Good effort, but this is outdated.
I'll put in the little updated about the PCI-E system.
Anyone willing to do the intel socket 775 and AM2 guide will be great.
Edited : I didn't noticed you have the new config which it is Socket 939.
It would be nice if we have the updated picture mate.
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25th January 2008, 04:24 PM
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Hi tomrca, bushwhacker
Here are the upgrades to the System:
Foxconn NF4UK8AA-8EKRS 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard
HIS Hightech H165PRQ256N-R Radeon X1650PRO 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 CrossFire Supported Video Card
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Manchester 2.2GHz 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor
ARCTIC COOLING ALPINE 7 92mm CPU Cooler
RAM 1Gx2 PQI D400 PQ|3200
The slave drive is not hooked up, it has the Vista Beta on it and Vista needed to be the C drive to install, need to reformat the drive an put Linux back on it.
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25th January 2008, 04:36 PM
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We are really sorry for this. I knew I saw it somewhere before, but I just couldn't think where, so I just put it in quote marks.
It's a very good guide indeed.
If you want, you can post the guide yourself as a new thread in this forum, then I can delete this one, as I think it's only fair.
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25th January 2008, 04:38 PM
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Yes, I agree Jason, that would probably be the best thing to do.
Regards Howard | 
25th January 2008, 05:06 PM
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Hi Jason
That would be fine except I am sooo busy right now doing fixups around the house, painting, new water pipes, gutting and redoing the second bathroom, finishing up some wiring and more, I just do not have the time at the moment. The post is fine here you have my permission to have it here, if you think I need to make some changes to the information I could try and find time for that. I took a 3 month voluntary layoff to get all the house stuff done, ( I hope lol ), but I can try and do some changes to the info. I do need to add more new content to my site while on layoff to.
I have people that email me from my site about computer problems, I fix most of them but it would be nice to get some imput from you all when I get a tricky one. I would go through all the threads here first to see if the topic has been addressed already before posting.
Actually I found this doing my usual Google search and found it interesting that someone found it worthwhile to copy and paste it here, I registered to tell you all it was OK for it to be here.
I will also put some links from my site to yours. |  | | Only registered members can participate in forum threads. You must register or log in to contribute. All times are GMT. The time now is 07:19 AM.
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