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27th October 2008, 04:33 PM
|  | Security Team | | Join Date: Dec 2007, 2,555 posts. Location: Tulsa, OK Reputation:   | | | CCleaner version 2.13 Click here to visit the CCleaner.com site and download Quote:
CCleaner version 2.13 has just been released, we've added support for Firefox 3.1 and other additional improvements listed below.
CCleaner v2.13.720 - Added support for Firefox 3.1.
- Added right-click cleaning and analysis for individual items in the tree.
- Added icons to tree parent items.
- Added cleaning for Windows Error Reporting files.
- Added Include/Exclude list editing.
- Improved TypeLib registry cleaning.
- Fixed Index.dat bug that could cause a crash.
- Fixed bug with INI warning messages.
- Internal architecture improvements.
- Fixed minor GUI errors.
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28th October 2008, 01:06 PM
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I know many who have hosed systems with the reg cleaner side of this program, be sure to shut that down if you use it. And also consider the source. "File Hippo" once brought you "Gator" one of the most infamous early spyware programs under the guise of a password saver.
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28th October 2008, 05:17 PM
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OOOhhh scary. How many registry cleaners are there out there?
If you really knew what you are talking about you would know FileHippo is run by Pirifirm. Makers of CCleaner...
I have a malware removal guide on another forum that has had over 28,000 views. CCleaner is the first tool used. Not ONE problem.
Last edited by evilfantasy; 28th October 2008 at 05:32 PM.
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28th October 2008, 05:29 PM
|  | TST Enthusiast | | Join Date: Jul 2008, 403 posts. Location: England North East :( Reputation:  | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Hope Cassidy I know many who have hosed systems with the reg cleaner side of this program, be sure to shut that down if you use it. And also consider the source. "File Hippo" once brought you "Gator" one of the most infamous early spyware programs under the guise of a password saver. | I also never had any problem after years of using ccleaner. Worries me when supposed techs hose systems with programs like this; perhaps they should read the instructions better and make backups beforehand.
Just my 2 cents.
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28th October 2008, 06:05 PM
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I have used it in the past but prefer not to mess with my registry unless i have an obvious problem
With all tools Back up Back up Back up !!!!!!!!!
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28th October 2008, 06:16 PM
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I use it daily before sending my computer to night nights
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28th October 2008, 06:21 PM
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CCleaner only runs on the current logged on account so it really can't "hose a system". If you are using only the main admin account then you are asking for trouble anyway.
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28th October 2008, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by evilfantasy CCleaner only runs on the current logged on account so it really can't "hose a system". If you are using only the main admin account then you are asking for trouble anyway. |
Sorry you are completely wrong. I have personally blown two systems with it which is why I advised to shut down the registry cleaning options though I will never use or recommend it again. We have to remember here anyone can read a forum post and hose their system without reading directions or thoroughly looking at the program to see all of what it involves. Whether or not a tech reads it is irrelevant to the big issue.
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28th October 2008, 11:35 PM
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It does just run on the current users account. If you have personally blown two systems with it then I don't want you touching my computer or advising what is safe lol.
Don't read the warnings and bad things can happen. There is always one who has a grudge against highly safe programs just like there are those who will try to promote utter junk programs.
This is a tool we recommend on this forum and is part of my malware removal guide so complaining about it really does no good. Quote: Caution: Only use the Registry feature if you are very familiar with the registry. Always back up your registry before making any changes. | | 
31st October 2008, 12:39 PM
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You know I agree on opinions and we all have them, but I have a tech business, am MCSE certified and personally hosed 2 systems with it. I have also known other techs on other forums who say the same thing. Use it, recommend it if you like, but all I am suggesting is you caution people about the registry cleaning and unless TST is an exception, there is no tech support forum on earth I have seen that recommends using any reg cleaner for any reason. I am not questioning your ability at all, only literally amazed at your closed mind! Technology by it's very definition, requires experimentation and advancement, and the results can be different for every user.
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31st October 2008, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Hope Cassidy I have a tech business, am MCSE certified and personally hosed 2 systems with it. | To me that suggests that you are not much of a tech then mate.
I have use CCleaner for a number of years now and have never had any trouble with it's registry cleaning, I have NEVER hosed a system with it and I dont know anyone else who has either.
Your are obvioulsy not worth your salt as a tech, I for one would not trust you with my systems
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31st October 2008, 02:48 PM
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There are so many different combinations of hardware and software that its impossible to say that with 100% certainty that one program is completely safe...to be fair
However running any program free or paid has a risk
Its a bit like smoking cigarettes
It kills some and not others..
It shouldnt be a problem with the proper precautions in place
back up
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Last edited by Blackmirror; 31st October 2008 at 03:09 PM.
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31st October 2008, 04:58 PM
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The others should listen to you, you are have more wisdom here than they do!
Last edited by Daveskater; 1st November 2008 at 05:52 PM.
Reason: Please do not quote the last post in a thread.
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31st October 2008, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackmirror There are so many different combinations of hardware and software that its impossible to say that with 100% certainty that one program is completely safe...to be fair
However running any program free or paid has a risk
Its a bit like smoking cigarettes
It kills some and not others..
It shouldnt be a problem with the proper precautions in place
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Originally Posted by Hope Cassidy The others should listen to you, you are have more wisdom here than they do! | Most of us here are of the same view as BM so I fail to see your disagreement.
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31st October 2008, 07:33 PM
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I still prefer ATF cleaner my personal choice but everybody likes different programs....
__________________ Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming...
Damn, What a ride!!
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1st November 2008, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hope Cassidy but I have a tech business, am MCSE certified and personally hosed 2 systems with it. | That's fair enough, but qualifications and experience go hand-in-hand. Just because you are a MCSE that doesn't make you more technically-minded than anyone else here, it just shows what you know. The MCSE course does not cover every single computer-related eventuality out there. I know exactly what the MCSE course entails as I was going to take part in it myself and recieved all of the packs as to what is involved.
Personally, I have used CCleaner for a while now, and I have it on every machine in my home. Not a single problem.
I do acknowledge that not everything is the same for everyone, and it's fair enough to say you've had problems with it, but it's not to criticise and compare a very successful malware removal guide with others out there because it entails registry cleaning.
Look at the amount of malware sufferers EF has helped in the Malware Removal section. ALL successful. Now that is of more comfort to me to trust EF with malware problems than any sort of qualification.
Just my view
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1st November 2008, 12:37 PM
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Yes i agree Kevin does a fantastic job
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1st November 2008, 12:42 PM
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Differences aside, I personally like the program very much and feel safe to use as well as condone it. However, I do agree with Hope that novices shouldn't use its registry cleaning feature without caution. Including registry cleaning as a part of regular maintenance operations is very risky and doing so further without any stable form of backup is most unwise.
As BM rightly says, hardly two system or their problems can ever be alike. Thus Hope, in her computing experience, might have "hosed" systems with CCleaner, we haven't. There is no point putting in our disagreements and arguments to convert the other side.
-- Goku
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1st November 2008, 12:49 PM
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I always like to try programs Goku out for my self trial and error and its all down to what YOU like and trust to do the job .
If Kevin asked me to run CCC as part of a Malware removel fix i would trust his judgement without question
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1st November 2008, 02:56 PM
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