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Old 8th February 2009, 07:56 AM
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Experimenting Anti-virus and other security products

I've been tried one of product is Bitdefender Anti-virus and i didnt like the file zone and Anti-phising and device scanning (All device including CD's) In my option that i think Bitdefender is a bit too over-protective.

Now i uninstalled Bitdefender and installed Kaspersky Internet Security and try it out, It seems nice but that anti-virus thinks one of my programs doing a illegal and they recommended by blocking it and i just click allow it (Control Centre 3 From Brother Software) I have added to trusted group but it still happening.

Next plenty of software i would like to try is

ESmart
ClamAV
McAfee
Norton
AVG
Avira
Cisco Security Agent
F-Secure
NOD32
Panada Security
PC Tools
Rising Antivirus
Sophos Antivirus
Trend Micro Internet Security
Windows Live One Care
Zone Alarm < Hate it before but i want to try again

If you got any other product you want me to try it, I'll be happy to know it.

Rik, Before you complain about Norton & McAfee & other Antivirus you hate, Dont worry i was just experimenting it, then when i finish it, i would uninstall it with Revo Uninstaller. Deal?
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Old 8th February 2009, 09:53 AM
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Mate, I understand you want to experiment with these programs, but it's really not worth the risk of getting an infection. To be completely honest you'd have to be a bit mad to want to try these programs when it's well known that your risk of infection is far higher than something proper. Even if you uninstall the program, that doesn't meant it'll get rid of anything that it lets in.

Out of your list, here are the ones that are actually worth trying:

Avira
NOD32
Panada Security
Trend Micro Internet Security
Zone Alarm
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Old 8th February 2009, 03:46 PM
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If you really want to try these progs, why not use one of these to prevent too much damage to your machine:

Windows SteadyState
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...s/default.mspx

Once you have everything set up the way you want it, you can share the computer and rest easy. Any changes a user might make to the configuration or hard disk can be undone by simply restarting the machine.

Pasted from <http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/sharedaccess/whatis/default.mspx>



Returnil.
Returnil Virtual System Personal Edition - Returnil

The Returnil Virtual System Premium Edition is a powerful virtualization technology that completely mirrors your actual computer setup and it can create a virtual storage disk within your PC where you can save documents, data, and files while using the System Protection feature.

Pasted from <http://www.returnilvirtualsystem.com/rvspersonal.htm>
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Old 8th February 2009, 03:46 PM
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Well at the end of experiment i could get my PC checked by Evilfansty or Rik as he want to help . I'll think he'll say Norton Norton! Norton!!
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Old 8th February 2009, 04:24 PM
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That's fair enough mate, but personally I'd rather not get infected at all in the first place.

You never know what you could get, you could even get something that could irreparably damage your computer.
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Old 8th February 2009, 04:48 PM
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Old 8th February 2009, 05:43 PM
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Irreparable Damage? The only time I see that mentioned is someone trying to sell their
anti-whatever product.
Some say hardware can be damaged but that is only theoretical.
A virus cannot directly or significantly effect anything beyond that which is
manipulatable via data. I believe if it can come in, it can be taken out.
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Old 8th February 2009, 07:42 PM
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Maybe I worded that a bit wrong.

What I meant was it could play with all sorts of files and a complete reformat would be needed to get Windows to work again. I have seen cases when Windows files have been seriously corrupted and the only way to fix it was a reformat, so it can not always be treated, plus sometimes if there are multiple infections it is much less work to format the drive.
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Old 8th February 2009, 10:23 PM
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Remind me that part, please :o
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Old 13th February 2009, 10:06 PM
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When you messed about with your registry
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Old 14th February 2009, 01:12 AM
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I know, i do that because im crazycomputerman

I'm thinking of uninstalling Kaspersky because i getting p***ed off when they appear asking for blocking Brother software and they always say that Block all (recommended) always happen on startup. So Kaspersky will be gone on Sat and changed to Nod32 and try that,

At the moment im looking for sercuity suite.
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Old 14th February 2009, 01:48 PM
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Mate, I understand you want to experiment with these programs, but it's really not worth the risk of getting an infection. To be completely honest you'd have to be a bit mad to want to try these programs when it's well known that your risk of infection is far higher than something proper. Even if you uninstall the program, that doesn't meant it'll get rid of anything that it lets in.

Out of your list, here are the ones that are actually worth trying:

Avira
NOD32
Panada Security
Trend Micro Internet Security
Zone Alarm
Dave - I am curious as to why you left AVG off your list? I have heard almost entirely good things about this product(apparently there are some problems
with the latest update however) and I'm cheap so I'm considering it when my NOD32 subscription runs out.
I respect you opinion, hence the question.

Len
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Old 14th February 2009, 03:50 PM
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Hey Len

AVG 7.5 was a good program, and widely used, but it has been replaced with 8.0 which is bloated, tries to install a toolbar, and gets lots of false positives. A misconception people make with anti-virus programs is they think "hey look, it's found all these things and removed them, it must be good". In reality though, if some of the things it finds aren't even there, then it is a bad program.

I used to use 7.5 on my old computer, but have changed to Avast since AVG has gone down the pan. In fact, I have used AVG for years up until now, I didn't want to change from 7.5, but it no longer has full support, and I refuse to install 8.0.
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Old 14th February 2009, 04:50 PM
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That's what I heard about the 8.0 as well. I'm wondering if the 7.5 is still available until they get an update for the 8.0.
Or should I just go with Avast? I've not heard all the hooohaaaahs over Avast as I have with AVG. Is it as easy to use and can it stand alone?
I'm using Malwarebytes AntiMalware Free, Adaware Free, AntiSpyware Free Edition, SpyBlaster and Run Ccleaner about twice a month. So I guess neither Avast or AVG would really be 'stand alone'. I also have the Microsoft firewall, but am not confident in that. I'm considering Zone Alarm as well.
Any feedback would be appreciated.....I feel like a hypochondriac here....lol

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Old 14th February 2009, 06:39 PM
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No problem mate, personally I'd say you don't need to run that many programs. With safe surfing you could run just and anti-virus, one anti-spyware and a firewall. I use the Vista firewall, my router firewall, Avast and have Spybot installed (teatimer activated) but only run it every few months. I never get major infections, just the odd tracking cookie.

You'd be much better off with Avast than AVG 8.0, it's free and is a standalone program so as long as you don't run another AV at the same time it'll be fine.
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Old 14th February 2009, 07:40 PM
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Most popular Antivirus Software downloads from CNET

1. 2,193,618 downloads AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition
2. 707,900 downloads Avira AntiVir Personal - Free Antivirus
3. 512,318 downloads Avast Home Edition
4. 85,945 downloads Avast Professional Edition
5. 56,004 downloads Norton AntiVirus 2009

How can so many be so wrong? To each their own.
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Old 14th February 2009, 09:51 PM
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Oh Avast is awesome programs, Look what happen when Avast detect virus.



Also they are a "talking antivirus" and it's really good, WolfeyMole recommended me to use it and i love it.

No security product pleased me at the moment.
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Old 15th February 2009, 11:02 AM
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Most popular Antivirus Software downloads from CNET

1. 2,193,618 downloads AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition
2. 707,900 downloads Avira AntiVir Personal - Free Antivirus
3. 512,318 downloads Avast Home Edition
4. 85,945 downloads Avast Professional Edition
5. 56,004 downloads Norton AntiVirus 2009

How can so many be so wrong? To each their own.
Because people use what they know. Lots of people will have heard of AVG because of 7.5 being good, so have now downloaded 8.0, just because it is the new one.

It's the same story with Norton in that list, so many people have heard of it because of the constant TV adverts and the way they try and push its sale with everything you buy from a PC shop, that people think "oh it seems really popular, must be good". Unfortunately, this is not the case. It's widely used to all the wrong reasons.
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Old 15th February 2009, 11:09 AM
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I agree, Dave.

Also, just because it's been downloaded much more than others, it doesn't mean it's now being used. I downloaded it and found it was not as good as it's predecessor. I uninstalled it a long time ago.

Popularity does not necessarily mean it's better as Dave has pointed out. But as you say, Gunner, each to their own.
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I always say try the AVS and see which one you like
I like AVG8
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