[nathanleeford]

I'm an Athiest so I don't think much about the.. Religious aspect of Christmas but soon, wont our Christmas be gone - seeing as all the people are coming over into Britian, and potentially taking over our country - how long exactly do we have left?

Thankyou

- Nathan

[Joshuashawharvey]

Christmas is a tradition of which tens of millions of people in this country, religious or not, enjoy celebrating.

England has by far more Christians than any other religion. From what i've read, approximately 70% of the population consider themself to be Christian.
What gives anyone the right to take away their traditions, as well as millions more who are not religious who still celebrate Christmas, including myself. Just because 11% are minorities, of which some of them will also celebrate Christmas?

I don't want to get into a huge debate how our Christmas is being taken away by minorities who feel "offended" by it, but it really does anger me how some of people think they have the right to attempt to take something away from millions of people just because it's not what they believe. How would they feel if someone was taking something away from them that meant a great deal to them? Exactly how we feel, thats how.
I've never come across a minority offended by Christmas, and in fact, some of them I know actually celebrate it, so my views are not targeted at all minorities.

For those minorities with the mind set that Christmas is offensive to them. In my opinion they suffer from a serious lack of empathy and a serious disregard towards respecting other people. They are extremely selfish people!

[Chick]

I love Christmas....to bad it's turned into nothing but the almighty dollar.

[evilfantasy]

It's not just in England. The small groups of complainers are turning it into a political debate in the US also. They twist the laws around to suit them. The sad part is they're taking joy away from our children. You can't teach religion in our schools and it's a religious holiday so they want no reference to it. I don't feel like digging up any links but it's ridiculous what they're trying to do. No "Christmas" trees and such...

[Blackmirror]

Originally Posted by Chick

I love Christmas....to bad it's turned into nothing but the almighty dollar.

I dont
long hours cooking
I fact i might go on strike
Stay in bed

[Chick]

Christmas doesn't have to be about one person doing all the cooking. Making it a family thing is fun. Getting children involved in making the cookies is easy for them. Adults in the kitchen chopping up stuff and cooking... a little wine (if you drink) or hot chocolate for me. Besides... does it have to be a big meal... how about simple stuff and spend the rest of the time with each other.

Anyway... Christmas is not what I remember it to be. Now the stores are opened at 4am and close ...well some don't close during the Christmas season. It's all about money and families start suffering because they feel they have to buy their children stuff that they really can't afford.

Where are the homemade gifts? I would rather receive a homemade card from my grandchildren than a store bought one. Which is exactly what they did last year and I framed them and treasure them.

Oh okay... I'll shut up now. hehe

[Howard]

Originally Posted by Blackmirror

Eat drink and get pished as a newt

Back on topic:

I'm not a lover of Christmas for various reasons, not which of least is it starts in September and just goes on and on and on. By the time it actually gets here, I'm sick to death of hearing about it.

Christmas has become a giant commercial enterprise and this has ruined it for a lot of folks. Add to that the PC brigade have got it in their sights and it really has become a joke of massive proportions.

[Chick]

Originally Posted by Howard

I'm not a lover of Christmas for various reasons, not which of least is it starts in September and just goes on and on and on. By the time it actually gets here, I'm sick to death of hearing about it.

Christmas has become a giant commercial enterprise and this has ruined it for a lot of folks. Add to that the PC brigade have got it in their sights and it really has become a joke of massive proportions.

Exactly!

We actually have what is called "Christmas in July" here. Now talk about Christmas coming early... I hate that with a passion. I remember when nothing would be decorated for Christmas until the night of Thanksgiving when the store people would decorate at night and people would go to town the day after Thanksgiving and it would be beautiful. Everything all lite up and pretty. Now the lights are up almost year round. We have New Years lights, Valentines lights, St Patty lights, etc etc... all the same just a different color.

Do you know that people have been stampeded trying to get a sale item! Now what kind of Christmas gift is worth that!!!!!!

Grrrrr

[alan2273]

We also have Christmas in July, it is on a shopping channel call QVC.

The fact that the PC brigade have got involved, has really bodged it up, a couple of years ago they changed Christmas to Winterval, so the ethnic minorities would not be offended, what about the majority or do they not count.

[Howard]

That's just ridiculous and then they wonder why people get so upset and angry.

The quicker these liberal, do goody good idiots wind their stupid necks in the better it'll be for everyone.

Frankly, if Christmas offends some people then so what. If they don't like it they can just bugger off somewhere else.

[Blackmirror]

Originally Posted by nathanleeford

I'm an Athiest so I don't think much about the.. Religious aspect of Christmas but soon, wont our Christmas be gone - seeing as all the people are coming over into Britian, and potentially taking over our country - how long exactly do we have left?

Thankyou

- Nathan

Now you have changed the question young Jedi

It would not bother me if Xmas vanished into thin air.
It has lost its meaning under a flurry of "I want" and Greed

Think about Xmas and i think about stress and turkey
Would it be a bad thing if Xmas was banned

How many people give up their Xmas and do charity work i wonder ?
I'm thinking about it next year...
UK is a multicultural society and we should all respect each others traditions ..
Maybe try to learn more about how Xmas is celebrated around the world or indeed in the UK ...by different Ethnic groups

[Jason]

Christmas is great for kids'. They love it. When you grow older, the excitement will probably wear off, but that doesn't mean we should stop it. There are still kids' you know who love it.

UK is a multicultural society and we should all respect each others traditions ..

I've said it before and I'll say it again, England is far from a multicultural society. I'm sick of these people trying to wash away our traditions, it's a joke. They have mosques built over here, but we aren't trying to get them knocked down, are we? I don't want to pray to Allah, and I'm sure any sane brit wouldn't either.

Dubai, Muslim country, and we Brits are arrested for the most extraordinary things. This for example: Holiday Brit jailed in Dubai for flicking middle finger | News | News Of The World.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere. We don't have enough houses to provide for everyone. They are coming over and stealing our identity. Lets hope the new benefit laws help in fighting immigration.

[Joshuashawharvey]

Agreed Jason!

As much as I agree that we should respect others' traditions, they should also respect ours!

Christmas, for me, is a time I spend with friends and family, NOT with minorities. So I do things my way, which is the traditional way. Why should I even consider learning or implementing other ways of doing things if i'm not going to appreciate or enjoy it? Just because others celebreate Christmas in a particular way, doesn't mean I have to. Don't get me wrong, as much as I don't want to conform to other ways, I still respect them. After all, i'm not telling minorities to conform to our ways, just to respect ours.

It's like people are saying we should conform to one way of doing things, which is, as Jason said "stealing our identity"

Maybe I don't want to be like everybody else and conform to their ways!

I celebrate Christmas or any festive season the traditional way, and that's the way it's staying, regardless of how many other cultures there are in OUR country!

[Daveskater]

About the minorities thing, I think that Jim Carrey said this better than I could have: "Sorry, how very selfish of me, let's do all the things you want to do"

[Rik]

Christmas will never disappear, it's too much of a money spinner for big business.

[Howard]

Very well said Jason and Josh. I concur completely.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally Posted by Howard

If you have nothing to contribute, then show the rest of us some respect and dont post.

Complaining and sniping is a great contribution - well done. Maybe you should follow your own advice.

[Howard]

Wind your neck in. What the hell has it got to do with you?

You know if that's all you wanted to say, you could have simply sent me a pm!

The fact of the matter is this.

Far too many threads here at TST are taken off topic by useless comments posted by regular members who should know better. At the end of the day, I don't believe this does any favours for TST, which is supposed to be a tech help site.

If you wish to continue this, then by all means, but please do it via pm's.

[Daveskater]

Dr S, if you wish to continue this conversation with Howard then do it via Private Message, or I am closing this thread.

[Gosterro]

Hello there

Way to go, Good Will and Merry Christmas to you all. as for fighting on the forums ask yourself "What would Jesus do?" This is the Chit Chat part of the forum so relax, sit back and have some dip.

Gosterro