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Old 22nd January 2008, 05:27 PM
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[SOLVED] Motherboard/RAM/Video ?

ok...hope the snaps show enough, if not I will do more

First, I don't understand the "video disabled" under onboard graphics in this shot. I read up about the Extreme Graphics 3 controller and it seem to refer to using 2 monitors?



Here I don't get the 128 MB ram thing. I was told this motherboard had 256MB built in graphics card??? so why does it show 128 here? Is it allocating 128 to each core? and how does that work??? I have had one blue screen since I got this computer. at the time I had a bunch of windows open, PSP, Daz Studio, etc. Now limiting myself to one IE window if I am runnning FF and will not open Daz or PSP if FF running. Maybe I need to understand computer resources? How things are used?


this to show CPU usage at 60% when I used MWSnap3 to take screen shot. It drops to 50/51% when snap not being used. Had POL/Final Fantasy minimized at the time.

not sure if it shows but I have 2Gb Ram installed. I asked about putting 3 or 4 in and the guy that built this said 2Gb sufficient for XP Pro and would do for Vista too if I upgrade later.

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Old 22nd January 2008, 05:41 PM
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First, I don't understand the "video disabled" under onboard graphics in this shot
This will be because you are using an independent graphics card, most likely in a PCI-e x16 slot. Look on the back of your PC. If the monitor cable goes to a socket near the USB etc, then you're somehow using the onboard graphics. If it goes into a socket below the built in motherboard connections, then you are using a graphics card.

Here I don't get the 128 MB ram thing. I was told this motherboard had 256MB built in graphics card??? so why does it show 128 here? Is it allocating 128 to each core?
Onboard graphics uses part of your system RAM as its own, which will mean that 1.75GB of the 2GB installed RAM will be available to Windows etc, and the rest to the graphics (when it's set to 256MB). For some reason it seems that it's set to use only 128MB of the system memory, but if you're not using the onboard graphics, then it doesn't really mater that much.

The only dual core graphics card that I know of is the nVidia GeForce 7950GX2, which is a PCI-e x16 card. Even then it uses two of the 7950GT GPU's on the card and not a dual core GPU chip. Basically what I'm saying here is that you don't get dual core graphics cards/chipsets and if it did have 128MB allocated to each, it would still add it up and show as 256MB.

Hopefully you can make sense of that lot and it will help you out
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Old 22nd January 2008, 05:51 PM
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I do NOT have any graphics card added. only the motherboard built in graphics... I could not afford to get NVidia added and was assured the built in 256 was sufficient to my needs; ergo, I don't understand the 128 reading... unless.... hmmmm.... I do have the monitor plugged into a splitter right now. dang. forgot about that. Have an older AMD sitting here, but there was a problem with the video display when I reconnected everything after getting home with this system and have not taken the time to figure out if I have a loose connection in the AMD or it's graphic card is fubar. will D/C from the splitter and see what I get it to read.

thanks

edit: removed monitor from splitter and connected to back of PC. still shows 128 MB Ram, and I rebooted before checking SIW again... darn
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Old 22nd January 2008, 08:01 PM
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Pol.exe=PlayOnline Viewer, this is what`s taking your cpu cycles. You may want to stop it from running.

I`m not familiar with your system, but it seems that your onboard video is 128mB and not 256mB as you were told.

What brand is your system?

Model number would help too.

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Old 22nd January 2008, 08:02 PM
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Hi Vikki, what software did you use to get all that information?
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Old 22nd January 2008, 08:04 PM
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She used SIW mate.

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Old 22nd January 2008, 08:17 PM
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Probably not your problem, but thought you might like to check this out. The GMA (Graphics Media Accelerator) drivers on there are out of date and the bios date, though cut off in your pic, is also not the correct date

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Filt...ting%20Systems
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Old 22nd January 2008, 09:37 PM
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Pol.exe=PlayOnline Viewer, this is what`s taking your cpu cycles. You may want to stop it from running.

I`m not familiar with your system, but it seems that your onboard video is 128mB and not 256mB as you were told.

What brand is your system?

Model number would help too.

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All the info you ask about is in the first snap... the motherboard was the latest intel MB at the time I bought this custom built system (11/07), and I was assured, it was doubled checked online, that this Mother Board does have a built in 256MB graphic card...

I know POL(Final Fantasy) is a resource hog. ergo, I don't do other things when playing.

I still don't understand why the onboard device/video shows disabled...

re: bios updates... frankly I would call my local computer guy if bios need updating, as I can get there, look, but would be afraid I might screw something up. I read at the link you gave and it suggests no updates unless one is having a specific bios related problem. Am I having such a problem? Danged if I know
IF, the video device needs to be enabled, I would go in and do that, as I think I could repeat to undo if it did not work.

thanks for your help with this guys.
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Old 22nd January 2008, 09:51 PM
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Ok no problem.

First: Don`t be too concerned with the SIW results, it could just be that it doesn`t fully support your system and that`s why it`s saying stuff is disabled, when clearly it`s not.

You can find your mobo`s complete specifications in this pdf document.

It says DVMT support, upto 256mB.
Quote:
1.6.1.2 Dynamic Video Memory Technology (DVMT)
DVMT enables enhanced graphics and memory performance through highly efficient
memory utilization. DVMT ensures the most efficient use of available system memory
for maximum 2-D/3-D graphics performance. Up to 256 MB of system memory can be
allocated to DVMT on systems that have 512 MB or more of total system memory
installed. DVMT returns system memory back to the operating system when the
additional system memory is no longer required by the graphics subsystem.
DVMT will always use a minimal fixed portion of system physical memory (as set in the
BIOS Setup program) for compatibility with legacy applications. An example of this
would be when using VGA graphics under DOS. Once loaded, the operating system
and graphics drivers allocate additional system memory to the graphics buffer as
needed for performing graphics functions.
Maybe that will help.

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Old 23rd January 2008, 02:53 AM
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*sigh* darn... am really having a time wrapping my mind around this... Howard, are you saying that the graphics "accelerator" that it shows is disabled could NOT be disabled if the video card is functioning on the mobo?

and that it showing 128mb instead of 256 could be because of the caveat... supports "up to" 256mb? and if so... what does that mean? that it kicks in if needed?

or it might not be there?

hope I'm not frustrating you all with these questions :frown:
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Old 23rd January 2008, 02:56 AM
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Yes, I`m saying your system is fine.

Quote:
Howard, are you saying that the graphics "accelerator" that it shows is disabled could NOT be disabled if the video card is functioning on the mobo?
Yes.

Basically, your graphics processor uses what ever it needs upto 256mB.

So if it doesn`t need it, it won`t use it.

If you have no further questions could you please mark this topic Solved by going to the top of this thread and click Thread tools, then select Mark this thread as solved As seen in the image below:


If you need this thread re-opened please contact a moderator or PM me.

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