[tiger436]

I have been having some issues with my PC. A few months back when I plugged the monitor into the video port that came standard with the PC the monitor would shut off and the light would go orange. When you unplugged it the colorful safe test would come back on along with the green power light. I then bought a new motherboard figuring the one on the PC had just gone bad. The problem still exsist. It doesn't seem like its the power supply or the monitor. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

[Blackmirror]

Hello and welcome to TST
Have you a graphics card if so you need to plug your monitor into that and not the standard Monitor port

[alan2273]

The monitor is not powered from the PSU, it will have its own power supply.
Have you tried what Blackmirror suggested.
Could you give some information about your motherboard.

[tiger436]

i do not have a separte video card. i'm using the on-board video. just purchased the board, like said this problem start with the old board. i purchased a MSI board.
the common part from the old board is the intel celeron D processor. based on my powers of deductions, I'm believing the processor is bad. how can i tell if the processor is bad before spending money to get a new one?

[alan2273]

Before you think about the processor, I would disconnect your monitor and hook it to to another computer, (a friends or relatives), just to test the monitor,also unless it is a fixed cable try another one, if it works then other components can be looked at.

[tiger436]

did that and the monitor are ok

more info: i only have the 24 pin & cpu power plugged to the m/board all other hardware is disconnected.

everything is new except the processor. i wasn't able to load the bios.

i am mechanically inclined, automoblies, but i've tried everything i could think of. the only thing I believe is left is the processor, but i scard to pay for a new processor and it not solve the problem.

[Klunk]

What beeps, if any, do you hear when you turn the PC on?
assuming you have an internal case speaker fitted and connected to the motherboard.. if you hear NO beeps at all on startup it is either a CPU or Motherboard issue. any other sequence of beeps will identify a specific hardware issue.

Test the CPU in your old board, If the CPU still works in your old board then suspect the new motherboard is faulty

[tiger436]

had the same problem with old board, the reason for the upgrade to a new board. i do not have an internal speaker but will try and hook one up

[Rik]

Just to check, you do have spacers fitted between the motherboard and the case right?

And welcome to TST.

[tiger436]

yes on the spcers

[Rik]

You really need to hook a speaker up in case it is bleeping first off.

Secondly, are you absolutely sure your new mobo supports your cpu %100?

[tiger436]

Rik--- if the MoBo doesn't support the cpu i just as well buy a new one. if its the cpu causing the proplem then it would solve the problem. the cpu was working in the other Mobo, so thats why i assumed it was the on board video that went out.

with the cpu and psu the only common parts i'm buy a new cpu & psu. if the cpu fixes it then the psu will go towards my gaming computer i'm getting ready to build.

the computer in questuon will be the wife's play time computer.

one little tidbit I fell to mention, wife said she smell a something burning and little smoke. the cpu doesn't have any signs of being burnt but i'm not a that great on computers.

thanks to everyone that posted.

As u can see i'm a novice, but i am loving every minute working on and building the computers.

[Rik]

Can you have a look at the label on the side of your PSU and see what make, wattage, and amps on the 12 volt rail it has.

[tiger436]

make:codegen
(+3.3V&5.V+185W Max; -5v&-12V=9.6w max ALL OUTPUT IS EXTENDED TO 400W MAX )

[alan2273]

Can you borrow a graphics card to try it out.?.

[Albert Lionheart]

Originally Posted by tiger436

one little tidbit I fell to mention, wife said she smell a something burning and little smoke. the cpu doesn't have any signs of being burnt but i'm not a that great on computers.

Not a good sign. I suspect the board is cooked and therefore dead.
Smells are either PSU or board and the way this story tells I suspect the board.
You could try a visual - look closely at the board for components that look abnormal and with maybe with pits in them.
You take the box to a local store and ask them to check for errors with the components, perhaps?

also have a good sniff at the PSU too!

[link590o]

I dare say the easiest thing to do is see what DOES work. Test the CPU in the old motherboard to see if that is still working. If it is, then you don't have a total loss. Test the other components too, such as any other common parts like memory or the hard drive, etc. Once you know what works, then you can figure out what you need to buy. Perhaps a new power supply and board.

Buying a newer model processor for the board isn't an easy fix necessarily. Computers, especially motherboards, are far pickier than cars. Cars have a unique ability: some cars have engine compartments that can fit engines from other makes and models. It'd be a lot like..say..putting a Porsche engine in a Saturn or something. There's flexibility in that respect.

But a motherboard will only fit a specific model that uses a particular slot and only if it's from a specific processor maker and model.

If you want to buy a new processor, you're going to end up buying a newer model and a newer model motherboard. That means you will end up buying completely new parts for it. Like a new hard drive, new memory, the processor, perhaps a graphics card if it doesn't have one built in...and that will get expensive.

It'll be worse if you're looking for older parts because they're not being made anymore, and they're likely to be almost 5 times more expensive than the newest technology.

Either salvage what you can from that hunk of junk, or give up on it and just pour everything you have into the new computer you're building. It almost doesn't seem worth the money or the effort to fix something that old.

[Rik]

A burning smell along with smoke is often the PSU going down.

Unplug it from the mobo completely then short the green wire to any of the black wires, it should power up, if it doesn't, then there is the cause of your problem.

[Albert Lionheart]

If the thing even smells a bit off - sometimes fishy - I would not even think about putting it into a machine. I have just done a PSU replace plus Mboard - see todays Tales from the Toolroom!

[Rik]

If you have a digital volt meter i can instruct you on how to check for correct voltages if it does still work.