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15th September 2008, 03:31 AM
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I was just thinking about it a while ago today and I'm not sure if it's possible to do, or if it's not technically needed. I am not sure if it'll be able to be done. But I have an old HP computer, which has Ram and what not in it. The computer isn't being used at all. It's actually just sitting in my closet, now that I have this new computer. My computer was bought from HP, as well as the old one. Now my question is, how would I go about knowing whether I can add the Ram from my old computer in with my new computer? Now the thing is, would it matter that my old computer had windows XP on it, and my new system has Windows Vista on it? I wouldn't think so, but you never know anymore when things are getting more advanced and changing almost always.
Also, in my old HP tower. Would the hard drive, be able to go into my new system as long as I reformatted it, and if I were to be able to do that and what not what would I be able to use it for? Would it make my computer even faster? As the ram being added from the old to the new computer, would that make it faster? I hope all these questions I have are making any sense... lol So basically I'm wondering this.... - Can I take and put hard drive from old tower into new tower?
- The ram in the old tower, can I add that into the new tower?
- Would adding more ram to my new computer, make it faster?
- How do I know if I have a extra spot in my new tower for another hard drive?
- What can benefit me, when adding another hard drive to new tower?
- Is ram basically memory, or is that a whole nother thing?
I appreciate any helpful information.  Thanks in advance!
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15th September 2008, 07:35 PM
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1. If the hard drive is the same type (IDE or SATA) then yes. If you do decide to put it in there then make sure you set the jumpers on the hard drives accordingly.
2. Same as #1...if the RAM is the same type (DDR, DDR2 etc) then yes.
3. Yeah, sorta...it won't be as slow if you have multiple things open
4. Unless you have like 5 hard drives in there, you should have room.
5. The biggest thing I can think of would be storage space. You won't have to put everything on your main hard drive
6. Well yeah, memory is another term for RAM...although by memory I think you mean hard drive space. Memory is what's used to run the applications (along with your CPU) and the hard drive is what stores all of your programs/applications/documents, etc.
I hope I was able to help you, and to everyone else, sorry if I didn't get something right while trying to explain things.
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15th September 2008, 10:23 PM
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Ok so Taima is pretty much right on the hard drive. If they are both SATA then yes you can. I am guessing your new computer is SATA. Your old could possible be IDE. Depending on how old it is. But the only way to know for sure is either post the models of both computers and we can check it out. Or you can just open up both computers and see what is what. With SATA you don't actually have to set the jumpers for master/slave. If I am not mistaken.
Yes adding another hard drive to your system will only allow for you to put more stuff on your computer.
Now as for the memory. Just because its the same type (DDR, DDR2) doesn't mean you wanna stick it in there. They are most likely running at different speeds and timings.
So say your new computer has faster memory than your old. And you stick your old memory in there. The memory will then run at the lowest speed. Thus not making a difference at all in the way your compute performs. Maybe even making it slower.
RAM stands for Random Access Memory. And as Taima said memory is just another term for RAM.
Oh and nope it doesn't matter if one system was XP and the other is Vista. As long as the motherboard can use that memory than all should be good. Same with the HDD.
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16th September 2008, 10:11 AM
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Hello cjrbond
Post your old and new HP computer model numbers for comparison dealing with your questions. ok | 
16th September 2008, 11:49 AM
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Thanks for clearing things up a bit there Sam. I forgot about RAM speed/timings and whatnot. I'm still happy that I got it right for the most part, since I don't give advice very often (usually cause it's regarding something I know little or nothing about, or because someone beats me to it).
But like Sho-dan said, you should post those computer models.
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16th September 2008, 09:30 PM
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No problemo Taima. You had pretty much everything right.
Ya as they guys said, post those computer models and we will give it a look see.
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17th September 2008, 06:52 PM
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I will do it as soon as possible. I really don't feel up to dragging out my tower of the closet. Ha! lol
Edit: I'm not exactly sure if this is going to help or not. But I looked up on HP site and this is what it says about the Ram I have:
4 GB (4 x 1 GB) DDR2 PC2-6400
Also hard drive is:
Actually, let me just post an attachment of what I see so you can see. lol
It's a *.pdf file... I hope you can read that?
Okay, nevermind it exceeds the limit. Let me put the file into a zip folder. lol
Okay nevermind, that exceeds as well. LOL! I don't know... I'm going to post another post, with copy and paste... I know it's a long post... So if you can quote what is all needed I'll edit the post and take out what isn't needed.
Last edited by CJ1985; 17th September 2008 at 07:05 PM.
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17th September 2008, 07:06 PM
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Model Information
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Login
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17th September 2008, 07:07 PM
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I blocked out my IP address, just so you know. Don't need it floating around on internet. lol
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17th September 2008, 07:26 PM
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That's great but how about the model number on the old one. I mean the odds are there really will be nothing usable except for hard drive. Surely not ram....but we need the model of the other to be sure.
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17th September 2008, 07:38 PM
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If you can't find any useful information on your old pc then google and get Everest Home Edition and run that on it. You can generate a report and post it here if you like.
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17th September 2008, 07:59 PM
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Actually, I'm going to go ahead and just if I want more speed, or anything as far as harddrive. I guess I'll just have to upgrade, and then it should tell me what i need to buy. I know, but it's just so much easier that way. I took a look in the tower of my HP and was like uh huh and where is the hard drive. lol No thank you, ha ha!
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17th September 2008, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cjrbond Actually, I'm going to go ahead and just if I want more speed, or anything as far as harddrive. I guess I'll just have to upgrade, and then it should tell me what i need to buy. I know, but it's just so much easier that way. I took a look in the tower of my HP and was like uh huh and where is the hard drive. lol No thank you, ha ha! | Don't be a coward, it's easy, just open case and take out a few screws and unplug 2 wires...
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17th September 2008, 09:18 PM
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Ha, I'm not a coward. I just figured if it's a new computer, new things should go into it if I want more hard drive and what not. I hope that makes sense? Besides, my old HP computer is like 7 years old.
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17th September 2008, 09:32 PM
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lol 7 years old. The HDD on that thing is definitely gonna be IDE. And the RAM, well you already got 4 gigs of the stuff. 
That is plenty IMO.
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17th September 2008, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cjrbond Ha, I'm not a coward. I just figured if it's a new computer, new things should go into it if I want more hard drive and what not. I hope that makes sense? Besides, my old HP computer is like 7 years old. | OK then nothing would be movable.
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17th September 2008, 11:07 PM
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I kind of figured that after I thought about it. But I guess the more I think about it, that pc is "really" old. lol
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18th September 2008, 10:58 AM
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My personal advice. What you have is already good  You will get no performance gain whatsoever from using the parts from your old computer, that's if they are even compatible which I doubt  . You have more than enough RAM for even the most demanding users, plus enough hard drive space for most people
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18th September 2008, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Joshuashawharvey My personal advice. What you have is already good  You will get no performance gain whatsoever from using the parts from your old computer, that's if they are even compatible which I doubt  . You have more than enough RAM for even the most demanding users, plus enough hard drive space for most people  | Yeah, Josh is right. You already have a bit of a speed demon. The only way it wouldn't be running fast is if you're infected with some sort of malware really...can I have it? |  | Only registered members can participate in forum threads. You must register or log in to contribute. All times are GMT. The time now is 05:51 AM.
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