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6th May 2008, 07:12 PM
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i have just been reading that my present mobo (p5gc-mx/1333)will only support 3.2gb of ram but "this is down to the operation system being 32bit". so does this mean that if i were to change to an xp 64bit or a vista version i could increase it to 4gb safely and with success?
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6th May 2008, 07:30 PM
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In a word, yes.
Your mobo supports upto 4Gb of ram, but using a 32bit OS means you can only access just over 3gB of it. A 64bit OS has no such problems.
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6th May 2008, 08:54 PM
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64-bit OS's can use 8 or 16GB or something like that, so you could quite safely have 4GB installed with no problems
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6th May 2008, 08:58 PM
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6th May 2008, 10:05 PM
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Ya really. not to mention the price of that much RAM. it would be sweet to build a server computer though. Get a nice internet connection, and run some game servers off of it.
Ok I made the thread go off topic... sorda. 
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6th May 2008, 10:10 PM
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I think I can let you off seeing as it's still related to amounts of RAM that a mobo can hold 
I think that Tom's question has been answered now so we'd better leave it at that, unless Tom has anything else he wants to add/ask.
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7th May 2008, 08:42 AM
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thanx lads! i will have a good think about changing to a 64bit os. cos it will be either xp 64, cos its cheaper or wait until i am forced to upgrade to vista.
what would you do??
not to go off topic use PM for answers
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7th May 2008, 01:33 PM
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For me, I'll hold off until Microsoft decides on XP's fates. If XP is going to stay alive for next few years, then it is good idea to get xp x64, because it is much cheaper than Vista, and runs faster.
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7th May 2008, 07:14 PM
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If you like XP, then get that. There won't be a point that it'll stop working, but there might be a point where the activation won't work any more, but that'll shouldn't be for a few years yet, at least until the support ends.
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7th May 2008, 07:56 PM
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Please keep this thread on topic guys.
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7th May 2008, 09:12 PM
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I have just put 4 Gb on my new board (for a future u/g to Vista) and as expected XP Pro only 'sees' 3 Gb of it. I was not aware there was such a beast as XP 64 bit so if this makes use of the RAM better than Vista, why not?
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Last edited by Albert Lionheart; 7th May 2008 at 09:15 PM.
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7th May 2008, 09:32 PM
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There is XP Pro 64, and Vista is 32-bit other than the 64 ones. Because of the limitation in the length of binary code in 32-bit OS's, the system can only read 4GB, but this has to include the graphics memory, and the virtual memory if I remember correctly.
Because 64-bit OS's can handle a longer length binary code (4 times more I think), they can make use of 4GB of RAM, and then some.
The general consensus is if you want to use more than 3GB system RAM, get a 64-bit OS.
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7th May 2008, 09:35 PM
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With just Vista to worry about I was content to wait for the SP issue to settle down before getting it - now I hear about XP 64 bit and I don't know what to do!
Pretty but slow Vista
Fast and boring XP
Not much sleep tonight then!
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7th May 2008, 09:37 PM
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Flip a coin
If Tom is happy that his question has been answered, then I think we are done with the 32/64-bit RAM debate that every forum encounters every so often.
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7th May 2008, 09:37 PM
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If you got 4Gigs in vista it aint gonna be slow. It should work great with that much RAM. OF course you need the 64 bit version.
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7th May 2008, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Daveskater  Flip a coin | Was that supposed to be a helpful, technically useful comment, Dave?
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8th May 2008, 05:05 PM
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@ Sam: That's true mate, it will run quite nicely with 4GB RAM. The more the better with Vista, really 
@ Albert: Well, it's an unbiased decision maker That or rock paper scissors. You be XP and the missus can be Vista
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9th May 2008, 06:27 AM
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With the spec of your computer Albert, I extremely doubt that Vista will be slow
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9th May 2008, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Daveskater @ Sam: That's true mate, it will run quite nicely with 4GB RAM. The more the better with Vista, really
@ Albert: Well, it's an unbiased decision maker That or rock paper scissors. You be XP and the missus can be Vista | A sort of marital dual boot, then?
As the thread cops are on the ball I'm going to start a new one - watch meeeee!
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